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Media Pushes CNN Poll showing Trump Drop and Ignore Zogby Poll, NBC Poll showing Trump Bump

Did you watch the debate on CNN last Wednesday? No? Well neither did 54% of the people that responded to the CNN Poll that the media headlined as Trump drops, Fiorina jumps. The largest block of respondents – 32% – admit that they only listened to the media coverage after the debates and not the debate itself. And add in another 18% who offered an opinion on the debates yet neither saw the debates or listened to the coverage in the days that followed. That means that half of the respondents either made up their opinions without facts or allowed the biased media to mold their opinion.

And to set the debate in proper perspective, 44% of the questions were either to Trump or mentioned Trump. And I do not recall a single question mentioning Trump that was not some kind of attack on him. There were no questions designed to give a sense of Trump’s accomplishments, only those that focused on what CNN hoped would be negatives as far as Trump is concerned. And there were no questions that highlighted the failures of the Obama Administration and how the candidates would handle things differently. In fact, it seemed to me that whenever any candidate started criticism of either Obama or the Democrat candidates, the moderators shut them down.

So it is my opinion that both the debate and the poll are seriously flawed and any conclusions one may draw from either are basically useless.


While the media talked up Fiorina as the big winner and Trump falling like a stone (after a debate designed to do just that) there are a number of questions and statistics in the CNN poll that the media simply ignored because they didn’t fit the narriative that CNN was trying to push. And don’t think for one minute that Fox News wasn’t on the same page as CNN. There were several other polls that have come out since the debate that no one was reporting. More on those later. For now, let’s look at the internal numbers in the CNN poll and what they tell us.

If you want to look at the numbers CNN released, the poll itself is here in pdf format.

One of the first things I noticed is 20-30% of those polled had never heard of most of the candidates. Trump and Bush had the highest name recognition where pretty much everyone had heard of Trump and 7% had not heard of Jeb Bush. And I would wonder how many of those 7% thought Jeb was a former president. Fiorina was the 3rd least recognized – even after the debate – with 30% never hearing of her. Only Scott Walker (35%) and John Kasich (39%) did worse.

Now let’s take a look at some of the demographics within the CNN poll between Trump and Fiorina.


Men Women Winner
Trump 26% 21% Trump
Fiorina 14% 17%

Trump gets support from more men and more women than Fiorina.


< $50,000 > $50,000 College? Winner
Trump 21% 25% 21% Trump
Fiorina 10% 19% 16%

Trump wins in all income groups and does better among college educated voters.

Political Ideology

Independent Republican Conservative Winner
Trump 14% 28% 21% Trump
Fiorina 21% 12% 19%

Fiorina bests Trump with Independents, but Trump does far better among Republicans and Conservatives

On Issues

The Economy Illegal immigration Foreign policy Social issues, such as abortion and same-sex marriage
Trump 44% 47% 22% 15%
Fiorina 11% 4% 8% 14%

So while the media chooses to focus on the fact that after a barrage of 44% of the questions being designed to damage Trump he falls 8 points from the previous poll prior to the debate, no media outlet is reporting on the areas that did not change. On the economy Trump fell just 1 point from the previous CNN poll, he gained 3% on illegal immigration and fell 4 points on Social issues. There was no prior polling on foreign policy.

So despite falling in the overall numbers in the CNN poll, Trump remained steady on the important issues and blows the rest of the candidates away.

But as I watched Fox News this weekend, they reported over and over on the CNN poll, but not a peep on the Zogby Poll that was released on Saturday showing Trump increased his lead to 33% up from 31% pre-debate. Zogby does show Fiorina with a bump, but only to 7% up from 2%. And Zogby also shows the same in the demographics – Trump leads among every group.

Real estate mogul Trump has widened his lead to 20 points in a brand new Zogby Analytics poll taken after the second Republican presidential debate. The new poll of 405 likely Republican primary/caucus voters nationwide with a margin of sampling error of +/- 5.0 percentage points, conducted September 18-19, shows Mr. Trump with 33% (up 2 points from his pre-debate 31%). In second place is neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson who actually dropped 3 points to 13%. Former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, widely considered to be the big winner in the debate, moved up from just 2% last week to 7% and fourth place in the new poll – just 2 points behind former Florida Governor Jeb Bush’s 9% (which is exactly where he was last week).

Texas Senator Ted Cruz moves up a point to 5%, followed by Florida Senator Marco Rubio, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, and Ohio Governor John Kasich all tied at 4%. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, who by many accounts, had a good debate night, stayed at 3%.

The biggest losers in the post-debate poll – besides Dr. Carson’s drop – were Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker who fell from 5% to 2% and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee who polled 2% (down from 4%).

Mr. Trump’s lead is across the board, among most major sub-groups – 36% among men, 30% with women, 30% Republicans, 39% independents, 29% moderates, and 31% conservatives.

And another poll ignored by the media for the most part (NBC and MSNBC reported the poll, but it was their poll) was a NBC poll conducted 9/16 – 9/18 with the bulk of responses after the second debate. Fiorina showed a bump in this poll, but the bump was more in line with Zogby’s findings as she went from 8% the previous poll to 11%, a 3 point bump. Trump, however, went from 22% to 29%. Also in line with the Zogby poll direction for Trump. And this poll showed similar drops in support for Scott Walker as the others.

So with 2 out of 3 polls showing increased polling numbers for Trump, it seems pretty clear that the media – including Fox News – have an agenda for selecting the next president that excludes Trump.

Establishment Republicans, Democrats and mainstream media have all united against Trump and in favor of any other candidate. And a lot of people find that to be a good reason to support Donald Trump.


About Tom White

Tom is a US Navy Veteran, owns an Insurance Agency and is currently an IT Manager for a Virginia Distributor. He has been published in American Thinker, currently writes for the Richmond Examiner as well as Virginia Right! Blog. Tom lives in Hanover County, Va and is involved in politics at every level and is a Recovering Republican who has finally had enough of the War on Conservatives in progress with the Leadership of the GOP on a National Level.

28 Responses to “Media Pushes CNN Poll showing Trump Drop and Ignore Zogby Poll, NBC Poll showing Trump Bump”

  1. Steven Brodie Tucker

    The media is doing what it always does. Take down the front runner. Doesn’t matter who it is. They’ll never stop trying.

  2. Daryl Carr says:

    The Today show on NBC had Donald Trump as a guest. Savannah Guthrie asked Trump for his response to the CNN poll which showed his drop and Carly’s rise. Donald in true Trump fashion asked why she was questioning him about a CNN poll instead of the NBC poll,who she works for,which had him polling higher than the CNN poll. This is what I and most other Americans like about Trump, he calls it like he sees it.

  3. Paul Thiel says:

    Fox News is no different- they are so in the tank for Jebby and they must give bonus money to any of their puppet commentators each time they make a comment downing Trump!
    They have lost any objective credibility they may have had are no longer remotely conservative. I believe Roger Ailes is the Ringmaster of the Circus they call Fox !

    • Daryl Carr says:


      I do not watch any of the all news networks. I get my news from sources all over the web. I find television to be rather shallow.

      • Paul Thiel says:

        Being retired and bored to near death, I listen to John Fredericks’ show, along with Herman Kane and Mark Levine and Michael Savage along with Limbaugh for a variety of information ! I have occasionally called in and spoken with several of these hosts and even spoken with the Ultra Liberal Jack Gravelly.

        Financially I read the Wall Street Journal as well to check out opinions on the finances of the country and see
        whats going on in the world of business .
        Financially this country is in deep financial Do Do and why I truly believe Trump is the only candidate that can turn this country around. We are a microcosm of the financial woes of Greece and headed that way as fast as we can go. Many think this is foolish thinking but we cannot keep printing 80 billion $ per month and pay nearly forty percent interest on our debt and sustain entitlement spending. As Dave Brat says social security will not be able to meet its obligations in less than 10 years.
        Thanks for getting Tom to deliver my proxy and forgive my tirade above.

  4. KTR Carol says:

    ” Establishment Republicans, Democrats and mainstream media have all united against Trump and in favor of any other candidate.”

    Just like they all united against the grassroots from the very beginning (’09). George Will’s comment is a perfect example of their opinion of us. “Trump supporters are “the vulgar unwashed masses incapable of cognitive thought or rational argument”

    (When we started supporting/opposing/proposing bills in the GA we assumed our biggest opposition to conservative principles would be the dems. Wrong! It is establishment Rs)

    Their new descriptive terms for us? ‘Vulgarians’, ‘Nativists’.

    Happy to be counted in that group!

  5. David Jackson

    I’m with you. Anyone who votes for an establishment Republican will get what they deserve. I for one will vote for a third party candidate or a democrat. The current Republican Party must go. Get on board.
    David Jackson

  6. Maggie

    After the last two election cycles, wouldn’t you think the RNC would have learned that every debate is an indictment of Republicans, specifically Conservatives.


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Tom White Says:

Nothing is more conservative than a republican wanting to get their majority back. And nothing is more liberal than a republican WITH a majority.

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