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Mental Illness Aspect of Gun Control a Slippery Slope

ar-15 photoWhenever we hear of a mass shooting, we can expect one of several things to be true.

  • The shooter is an Islamic terrorist or has been influenced by Islamic terrorists.
  • The shooter has been raised on a diet of Ritalin and Adderall and has exhibited severe behavioral problems.
  • The shooter has a history of mental illness (aside from ADHD).

The left has always pushed to “normalize” mental illness and rid society of the stigma attached to it. A lofty ideal, but potentially dangerous to the rest of society as we are supposed to pretend that what we naturally perceive as a threat is really not a threat at all. Political Correctness dictates that we accept any and all behavior as normal – right up until they open fire on us.

Do you know that there are people who have perfectly health limbs amputated? It is call “Body Integrity Identity Disorder”. It is a “proposed” disorder in which otherwise healthy individuals perceive one or more of their limbs or organs as alien to the rest of their body and wish to have it amputated.

Most people see that as an easy call. The person is mentally ill.

But when the appendage they want to amputate is a sex organ, then they are to be respected as some kind of hero.

But the left in their ever evolving world of flexible mental health is having problems nailing this one down. On the one hand, they admit it is a bit nuts. Well, a whole lot of nuts. But on the other hand, there are the “trans-gendered” who are “perfectly sane and normal” according to their psychobabble. How can they glorify amputation of some healthy body parts but not others?

In a stunning statement on Wiki, they admit the shrinks confusion on this disease. And the awkward similarity of people who want to chop off an arm and those that want to remove breasts and penises. So rather than classify it as a disease in the latest diagnostic book of official types of mental insanity, they left it out.

Read this statement carefully and try not to laugh”

As of 2014 the construction of the condition was unclear as to whether it was a form of human diversity or a mental disorder, similar to the development of the concept of gender identity disorder; there was debate about including it in DSM-5 and it was not included.

So the left has removed assorted nuts from one basket and placed them in another, only to find out that there were more nearly identical nuts in the first basket.

So keep in mind as we debate the possibility of including Mental Illness markers in the gun control debate, the brain trusts behind setting the bar on gun ownership can’t decide if amputating your leg is “normal” like chopping off your wee-wee or crazy.

Here is a hint. They are both nuts.

Ahh, but I have now branded myself a trans-o-phobe because I believe that sex reassignment surgery is a mental illness. And so are the limb-choppers – or transabled as they like to be called.

So can I now be denied the right to own a gun? Because I do not believe Tranny’s are normal?

If any an all mental illness is reason to deny gun ownership, how long will it be before listening to Rush Limbaugh or Fox News is classified a mental illness by people that cannot tell if chopping off a leg is normal or not?

And what of Veterans with PTSD? And what do the lawmakers think of these individuals who gave so much for their country?

In debating a gun ownership bill, California Senator Dianne Feinstein said:

The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.

So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to– if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.

For starters, PTSD is not a new “phenomenon”. It is as old as war itself. It was first added to the shrink diagnostic book in 1980 – and Feinstein’s Gulf War did not start until 10 years later. But PTSD has been recognized since at least 1678 when Swiss physicians called it “Nostalgia”. It has been called “battle fatigue, shell shock, war neurosis, Gross stress reaction, post-Vietnam syndrome, as well as today’s term PTSD.

Lawmakers like Feinstein pretty much assume every Veteran has PTSD and this will open the door to deny Vets guns. And this will stop a lot of Vets from getting the treatment they need. How many people have PTST from a war people like Feinstein started?

But PTSD isn’t just a disease effecting people who have been in a war. Anything from a car accident to a bank robbery can cause PTSD to some degree. Not to mention survivors of mass shootings that this gun control talk purports to remedy.

But the common thread outside of terrorism to these mass shootings is mental illness. And we find that this mental illness is pretty much always known about before the person becomes a mass killer. And terrorists cannot be declared mentally fine either.

In the aftermath of each shooting a phrase has become all too common. “Signs were missed.” You think?

Columbine was one of the few shootings where the killers bought the guns illegally as they were underage. They also made 99 Improvised Explosive Devices. The kids were on prescription meds and a number of people knew the signs were there.

Cho, the Virginia Tech shooter was referred to the mental health clinic by a professor, turned in for suicidal comments by a roommate and definitely had issues and all the flags. But there is no system in place to recognize this and correlate data in real time. Cho bought 2 guns legally.

While most of the guns used in mass shootings were purchased legally, several shooters should have been prevented from buying guns, but data was not entered. Others had mental health issues, but that is not part of the background search.

  • Dylann Roof the Church Shooter in SC had a marijuana possession that was not entered.
  • Devin Kelly the Church shooter in Texas beat his wife and broke his infant stepson’s skull bought his gun legally because the information was not in the system.
  • John Houser was denied a concealed carry permit but was allowed to buy a gun that he used to kill 2 and wound 9 in a Lafayette, LA movie theater.
  • Raymond Fryberg had a permanent domestic protective order against him that was never entered in the system. He bought a gun which his son used to kill 4 students in Marysville, WA.
  •  Ivan Lopez was being treated by a base psychiatrist at Ft. Hood for anxiety and depression and legally bought a gun (at the same shop Nidal Hisan bought his).
  • Aaron Alexis was discharged from the service for bad behavior (with an honorable discharge?) but was paranoid and obviously mentally ill. The good news is he was refused when he tried to buy an “assault” rifle, but was sold a shotgun instead. He used it to kill 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.
  • Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook killer used a legally obtained gun owned by his mother to kill 26.
  • James Holmes killed 12 in a theater in Aurora CO using a gun he legally purchased. Holmes was under the care of a shrink.
  • Jared Loughner opened fire in a Tuscon, AZ parking lot killing 6 and wounding Congressman Gabby Giffords. He was kicked out of college “because of campus officials’ fears about the safety of the staff and students”. He bought his gun legally.
  • Jiverly Wong fired 98 shots with 2 pistols (who needs an “assault” rifle) killing 13. He had at least 5 incidents with police but bought the first gun with no problem. His second purchase failed to return an answer and after 3 days the sale legally went through with no response.

So what is the answer?

Obviously, being diligent and entering crimes and incidents into the system, especially if it would effect a background check for buying guns,  is the first step. That would at least have prevented the sale in some instances. It doesn’t necessarily mean the killings would not have occurred, but it would have made it harder.

As to the mental health aspect, that is a harder problem. Should a psychiatrist be required to report all potential killers? I suppose if the doctor is absolutely convinced the person is capable and about to harm himself or others reporting that would be good. At least putting a hold on gun purchases. But if the person is that dangerous, should the shrink have him admitted to a facility somewhere instead?

And how do we know when the person is no longer a threat?

And what of the violation of a person’s rights? And the potential to avoid treatment? Is there some “common sense” way to violate doctor – patient confidentiality and the trust of a patient by forcing doctor’s to rat out his patient? I can’t think on any. If they are bad enough to report, they are bad enough to commit.

It’s Security, obviously.

When a person takes a gun belonging to a family member, that can’t be stopped by more laws. When a perfectly sane person with no criminal history walks in to buy a gun, and later kills with it, that can’t be stopped by more laws.

The truth is, it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of someone that wants to kill. We have already enacted all of the “Common Sense” laws that we can to prevent bad people from purchasing guns. But things will always fall through the cracks. And it won’t stop the over 350 million guns in the USA from falling into the hands of killers. If people want a gun, they can get one.

I have yet to hear one “Common Sense” proposal that would make a difference from those demanding more laws. Schools are gun free zones. Murder is illegal. Firing a gun is illegal in most cities and towns.

No, we have pretty much saturated the buying end with all the laws that we can. We can never stop all car fatalities. We can make cars safer and safer. We can pass speed limits and write tickets. But traffic fatalities will still occur.

But one difference with guns, we can post armed guards in schools. Or more armed guards. We can control access to current students and those with a reason to be there. We can lock doors from the outside and put alarms on them so students don’t open them and let in a potential bad guy. We can use cameras. We can set up police precincts in the schools. Many jurisdictions place police cars at various places to scare off those intent on harm. We can arm teachers. Janitors. Librarians.

We will never stop all mass shootings with laws. The best we can do is get to the high 90’s percent. The rest must be dealt with with physical security and deadly force (if necessary).

I have a Concealed Carry Permit and make full use of it. Like most who own and carry guns, I hope to never have the need to use it except at a gun range. But I understand that the law can only go so far. There are at least a quarter of a million stolen guns in circulation at any time. And these can show up anywhere. The Mall, the grocery store, your bank. Anywhere. And like a spare tire in my trunk, I hope I never have to use it, but I wouldn’t go anywhere without it. My life may depend on it.

 

 

 

About Tom White

Tom is a US Navy Veteran, owns an Insurance Agency and is currently an IT Manager for a Virginia Distributor. He has been published in American Thinker, currently writes for the Richmond Examiner as well as Virginia Right! Blog. Tom lives in Hanover County, Va and is involved in politics at every level and is a Recovering Republican who has finally had enough of the War on Conservatives in progress with the Leadership of the GOP on a National Level.

3 Responses to “Mental Illness Aspect of Gun Control a Slippery Slope”

  1. Bob Shannon says:

    Your article raises the legitimate concerns about the ” mental illness” restrictions. Perhaps criminal ( not civil) liability might be extended to parents or other adults housing anyone under age 25 that is clearly exhibiting signs of mental illness and does not report it to authorities.

    I simply can not imagine any responsible adult who has someone living with them , possessing these types of weapons and not asking for intervention, via law enforcement of local mental health professionals to determine if the guns should be removed and or the disturbed individual be institutionalized to stop any harm coming to innocents

    The notion that took root back in the 60’s into the 70’s of ” main streaming” the mentally ill went far , too far. We pride ourselves in our rightful guarding and protecting every Americans civil liberties , but public safety must come first. This sick young man should have been a in patient in a hospital, the warning signs were there long before he carried out his demented act. By extending criminal liability you add the benefit of making sure people understand they will be held accountable for housing this person and ignoring the clear signs they were in some sort of distress.

    My reservations about Resource officers are twofold. First as a fiscal conservative I understand how much this approach costs. Here locally we have 1 at the high school and the cost alone are around $100,000 a year. Expanding that approach will be terribly expensive. The main reason I object however is a much more effective remedy ( the Israeli solution) actually works, it is a proven remedy, it changes the equation entirely for the shooter. They go into or onto school grounds knowing they themselves are going to be shot and likely killed. We certainly can rigorously test school teachers/administrators , train them and then arm them to accomplish the goal ( protecting school children/staff) more cost effectively .

    Bob Shannon King William

  2. Mathew Puglianno says:

    I urge VA Right Readers to google Milton William Cooper’s “Behold a Pale Horse” exposing the New World Order. Cooper’s book is a YOUTUBE Video. He predicted this nightmare. Drug Americans and create School Shooters. Terrorize America.

    Google ” MK ULTRA.” The CIA operation that went terribly wrong. Sounds like the Las Vegas Shooter huh? and Other tragedies.

    Drugging every vet with SSRI’s like Prosac and Ambien and Xanax was intentional. Create a nation of drug dependent psychos as a reason to disarm a nation.

    Las Vegas- was not a Solitary Shooter. The FBI is lying to Americans. Another act to feed the New World Order’s narrative that Americans must be disarmed.

    This is not conspiracy theory when we are living it.

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    The left has always pushed to “normalize” mental illness and rid society of the stigma attached to it. A lofty ideal, but potentially dangerous to the rest of society as we are supposed to pretend that what we naturally perceive as a threat is really not a threat at all. Political Correctness dictates that we accept any and all behavior as normal – right up until they open fire on us.

    Do you know that there are people who have perfectly health limbs amputated? It is call “Body Integrity Identity Disorder”. It is a “proposed” disorder in which otherwise healthy individuals perceive one or more of their limbs or organs as alien to the rest of their body and wish to have it amputated,Nice.

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