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My Unbiased Opinion on the Vogel – Reeves Email Scandal

spy photoI am not supporting any State Senators in the Lt. Governor’s race this year. Neither Jill Vogel nor Bryce Reeves will see my endorsement for two reasons. First, neither has impressed me with their voting records. But the biggest reason by far is the balance of power in the State Senate. Vogel’s seat may be slightly easier to hold in a special election, but Reeves defeated long time Democrat Senator Edd Houck by a hair. And the last thing Virginia Republicans need is to lose the Senate majority. Terry McAuliffe and the Democrats have left the Commonwealth in a much weaker position and we will need both houses and the Governor’s office to restore the state to prosperity.

Right now, only Rep. Glenn Davis is in a position that will not adversely impact the Republican majority in the Legislature.

But if you have not seen the email story, it is in the Washington Post, and on TBE here and here. The second TBE link has several documents included which I have analyzed.

Just as a side note, I am currently an IT manager and have been in the computer and data communications field for over 30 years and have worked on computers for 44 years. I have been a consultant and have done corporate forensics and data restoration of deleted data. I have worked on military encryption gear and have basically spent my entire career in data and computer jobs.

Here is what happened according to the documents that were released.

On 9/22/2016 at 9:57 AM EDT a GMail account was created using the name Martha McDaniel. The email address was [email protected] The IP address logged was TBE redacted the IP address in most, but not all places. (They missed one.) Google requires a phone number or other means to verify the user. The phone number they used was 202-669-XXXX – again redacted by TBE. According to TBE, the cell phone number belongs to Jill Vogel’s husband, Alex. And they have a recording of the voice mail message which they claim has been removed that identifies the number as belonging to Alex.

Update – 1/3/17 3:21 PM

Steve Albertson was kind enough to send me the un-redacted documents and, as I expected, the IP addresses do indeed match. So I can verify that the redactions are not relevant to the story.

Problems I have with this:

We can’t verify the phone number because it is redacted and there is no Subpoena Duces Tecum providing records for the cell phone owner. And there is no way to verify the recording as being from the number that has been redacted. Absent some type of phone verification records, I cannot verify that the phone is actually the one tied to the Google account. But I assume they would be able to produce this verified evidence or open themselves up to a suit.

The next event of note was an email sent from this account on September 30, 2016 at 12:49 PM EDT. The IP Address used to log on and send the email was as redacted by TBE. Again, we have no way of knowing the important last two octets of the address.

Another problem with a potential defamation suit is that the email in question does not actually accuse or claim Reeves is having an affair, only that there are rumors.

So what are the un-redacted IP Addresses? TBE redacted a lot of IP addresses in the various documents, but they failed to redact two of the IP addresses. Jill Vogel’s IP address is At the bottom of the page found here just below the redacted IP address that is circled shows the full IP on the bottom line. This is Vogel’s home IP. Or it was from September 19 – September 22 according to the document. And according to the document from Google, the Vogel household accessed the Gmail account 3 times for about 45 seconds total only on September 22, 2016. NOT the day the email was sent.

The account was accessed a total of 6 other times by IP address (If you look at the top of the Century Link response found here you will find the un-redeacted address.) This is the IP address of Vogel’s neighbor who alleges that they operate an unsecured internet WiFi Connection.

So the Gmail account was created on 9/22/2016 from the Vogel neighbor’s internet for a period of about 40 minutes. 4 minutes later, the Google logs show an access from the Vogel’s internet address a total of 3 times for less than a minute altogether. The account was accessed from the neighbor’s account 8 days later on September 30, 2016 at 16:41 UTC which is 12:41 PM EDT. 5 minutes later, the person logged off at 12:46 PM. The email in question was sent at 12:49 PM on September 30, 3 minutes after the account was logged off. But that 3 minute gap is insignificant and most likely accounted for by clock drift. Then on October 1, 2016 the neighbor’s IP address was used to delete the Gmail account.

But what these documents produced so far show is that the Gmail account was not created using Vogel’s internet service. Rather, it was created using a neighbor’s account. And the email was not sent from Vogel’s account, again, it was sent from the neighbor’s account.

Just after the Google account was created using the neighbor’s internet account it was accessed using Vogel’s internet. Not long enough to do anything other than log on and off.

The bottom line is that the account was created on an open WiFi and the email was written on an open WiFi that does not belong to Jill Vogel. The fact that the account was briefly accessed using the Vogel internet service isn’t proof that she was responsible for the email sent 8 days later.

So Reeves will have a hard time proving not only defamation, but he will also have a hard time proving that Vogel even knew anything about it. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that gives way to a lot of interesting theories, but there is no proof.

I would urge TBE to republish the documents without redacting the IP addresses. Often, internet providers own large blocks of addresses. Class B or even A. The first two sets of digits (octets) are the only ones assigned to the owner of a Class B block. And the last two octets change. Not that I think TBE is playing with the redaction’s, but since they missed completely redacting the numbers, I would like to see the un-redacted copy.

The phone number is understandable. But a Subpoena of the phone records showing a text from Gmail would be helpful.

And again, at this point I do not plan to endorse either Senator, so I am not pulling for or defending anyone here. Just looking at the evidence.





About Tom White

Tom is a US Navy Veteran, owns an Insurance Agency and is currently an IT Manager for a Virginia Distributor. He has been published in American Thinker, currently writes for the Richmond Examiner as well as Virginia Right! Blog. Tom lives in Hanover County, Va and is involved in politics at every level and is a Recovering Republican who has finally had enough of the War on Conservatives in progress with the Leadership of the GOP on a National Level.

11 Responses to “My Unbiased Opinion on the Vogel – Reeves Email Scandal”

  1. VA Beach Tea Party says:

    The Middle Resolution Pac has focused on Republican control of the state senate for the election cycles in recent years spending hundreds of thousands of dollars electing RINOs to gain and maintain a razor thin Republican majority. So readers of VA Right, ask yourselves why would the Middle Resolution Pac back Jill Vogel, a seat that is as vulnerable to a Democrat win as Reeves’ seat?

    Could it be that the Middle Resolution would sacrifice the senate now that they control it to pass the Article V Convention of States in this year’s General Assembly session and their charter school agenda in Virginia? That tie breaking Lt. Governor vote in the senate is critical. Remember the many Bill Bolling Tie Breaking votes during his tenure as LG?

    Get State Senator Jill Vogel on the record on the issue of the Con Con and Charter Schools before you vote in the June Primary. Find out just how much of a Constitutional Preservationist Vogel really is.

  2. Steve Albertson

    Thanks, Tom. This is very helpful. I’ll send you unredacted versions. I don’t believe there has been a phone records subpoena, as neither Vogel has been a party to Reeves’ lawsuit, so as far as I know there is not yet any smoking gun one way or the other re the Google verification SMS.

    • Tom White says:

      As noted by update in the story, the redactions are legit. I can verify to any skeptics that there is no deception here. Not that I thought there was, mind you.

      Update – 1/3/17 3:21 PM

      Steve Albertson was kind enough to send me the un-redacted documents and, as I expected, the IP addresses do indeed match. So I can verify that the redactions are not relevant to the story.
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      • Trump Watcher says:

        How does someone access someone else’s gmail account, created on a neighbor’s open wifi, even briefly without first having the password/username for that gmail account?

      • Lori Hoyt says:

        The Century Link IP is not as you’ve cited. It is

  3. VA Beach Tea Party says:

    Why is the Bull Elephant editor in chief and leader of the Christian Taliban who supports Bryce Reeves for LG running around the state in his trench coat like some Sherlock Holmes solving a mystery?

    Reeves was endorsed for LG by enough armed law enforcement officers to launch a coup- couldn’t one of them “solve the alleged crime?”

    Why does a Georgetown Law Graduate have so much time on his hands and who is supporting this
    paper chase?

    • Eric McGrane says:

      Why is it that you can’t use your real name when posting belligerent nonsense? Why do you think that its easier to write “VA Beach Tea Party” instead of simply writing your own name? Why is it that you use the 9/11 conspiracy method of “I’m just asking questions” to float out innuendo? Why is it that you are clearly an anti-religion bigot when using nonsensical, hyperbolic terms like “Christian Taliban”? Why is it that you ask so many questions instead of plainly stating your positions? Why why WHY????

      • Viper says:

        McGrane- coming from you? a Bull Elephant Blog Troll? following Albertson’s blog attempting to sink Senator Jill Vogel’s LG campaign for Bryce Reeves? While good people from Spottsylvania County close to Reeves suspect Jill Vogel is the real victim here? There are plenty of people in the white pages under the letter “M” who could have performed this alleged hack on the Vogels’ internet.

        Free Speech is allowed on Virginia Right unless you are a Drifty Boy.

        Crawl back under your bridge McGrane.

  4. Patrick Siewert

    Thanks for additional overview, Tom!
    For additional background and investigative information about how these types of investigations should proceed, please read the following blog article and case study, authored by me for my company, Pro Digital Forensic Consulting:

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